Camera Price Charts Episode VI: DSLRs vs Mirrorless (Full Frame)

And now the last installment in the July 2017 series, we are zooming in on a DSLR vs Mirrorless tet-a-tet with 35mm full frame sensors! The focus is on made-for-digital mirrorless cameras, meaning no rangefinders in this particular comparison.

JULY 2017 SERIES

+ 35mm FULL FRAME digital cameras
+ APS-C dSLRs
+ Mirrorless Cameras
+ Fixed Lens Cameras
+ APS-C dSLRs vs Mirrorless
+ 35mm Full Frame dSLRs vs Mirrorless

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Camera Price Charts July 2017 Episode V: APS-C Civil War: DSLRs vs Mirrorless

And now we have a new entry in our Price Charts series. It is an APS-C interchangeable lens camera civil war! DSLRs vs Mirrorless cameras! How do the prices compare? Who has more options in the market? Details at 11 (okay, right below)…

JULY 2017 SERIES

+ 35mm FULL FRAME digital cameras
+ APS-C dSLRs
+ Mirrorless Cameras
+ Fixed Lens Cameras
+ APS-C dSLRs vs Mirrorless
+ 35mm Full Frame dSLRs vs Mirrorless

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Camera Price Charts July 2017 Episode IV: Serious Fixed Lens Cameras

Part IV of our July 2017 “Price Charts” series is here, focusing on Serious Fixed Lens cameras of all kinds. This year, I removed cameras with 1/2.x” sensors from consideration ~ sensors growing in size in all directions, even in smartphones.

JULY 2017 SERIES

+ 35mm FULL FRAME digital cameras
+ APS-C dSLRs
+ Mirrorless Cameras
+ Fixed Lens Cameras
+ APS-C dSLRs vs Mirrorless
+ 35mm Full Frame dSLRs vs Mirrorless

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Camera Price Charts July 2017 Episode III: Mirrorless [Revised]

Part III of our July 2017 “Price Charts” series is here, focusing on Mirrorless cameras of all kinds. Rangefinders are not included, nor cameras with sensors larger than 35mm. This is the Revised Edition!

JULY 2017 SERIES

+ 35mm FULL FRAME digital cameras
+ APS-C dSLRs
+ Mirrorless Cameras
+ Fixed Lens Cameras
+ APS-C dSLRs vs Mirrorless
+ 35mm Full Frame dSLRs vs Mirrorless

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Camera Price Charts July 2017 Episode II: APS-C DSLRs Persist

Part II of our July 2017 “Price Charts” series is here, focusing on APS-C DSLRs. Other cameras with APS-C size sensors will be listed in their appropriate categories, either Mirrorless or Fixed Lens Cameras. Yesterday we covered the 35mm Full Frame Cameras (all kinds, not just DSLRs). They are grouped like this to keep the groups at a manageable size and logically meaningful.

JULY 2017 SERIES

+ 35mm FULL FRAME digital cameras
+ APS-C dSLRs
+ Mirrorless Cameras
+ Fixed Lens Cameras
+ APS-C dSLRs vs Mirrorless
+ 35mm Full Frame dSLRs vs Mirrorless

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Camera Price Charts July 2017 Episode I: Almost Full Frame For All

And we are back with an early July 2017 edition of our snapshot of camera prices in the US market. We start with the 35mm full frame digital cameras, grouping together all kinds, DSLRs, mirrorless, walletfinders (okay, rangefinders), and fixed lens. Because Medium and Large Format is a small niche (all things considered), we are not tracking their prices here…

JULY 2017 SERIES

+ 35mm FULL FRAME digital cameras
+ APS-C dSLRs
+ Mirrorless Cameras
+ Fixed Lens Cameras
+ APS-C dSLRs vs Mirrorless
+ 35mm Full Frame dSLRs vs Mirrorless

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Camera Price Charts 2016 Episode IV: Serious Fixed Lens Cameras

In Episode #1 of the November 2016 series, we took a look at the prices of all 35mm Full Frame Digital Cameras… In Episode #2, we took a look at APS-C DSLRs… In Episode III, we take a look at prices of Mirrorless Cameras… In this post (episode IV), we take a look at some of the serious fixed lens cameras aka RAWsumers…

Where Does The Data Come From?

The prices are the consensus prices between Amazon and B&H Photo and Adorama as of November 3 in 2016. These are new condition with USA warranty prices, from authorized dealers. Older cameras that are no longer available in new condition with USA warranty from the above retailers, or are available in a very limited fashion, are not included.

Serious Fixed Lens Cameras – The Big Picture

We have a pretty steady progression of prices from $450 to $2000, with the majority of the cameras narrowing down to three sensor sizes, 1-inch, APS-C, and 35mm full frame. 2/3″ used to be more popular, and so was 1/1.7″, while the Canon G1 X* line is the only one carrying the flag for 1.5″. I am no longer adding new 1/2.3″ cameras to the chart but there is one hold-out from the previous chart (FZ300).

Canon and Sony are doubling down on this segment by keeping multiple active cameras in their line-up, Canon has six models, and Sony has eleven, keeping all models around of three separate lines, the RX100 (five models), and the RX10 and RX1 (three models each). Panasonic too is continuing with an LX and FZ track. Nikon’s re-entry happened with a trio of new cameras under the DL line (to be released by the end of the year). Fuji cooled off on this segment, but offered a lower-priced APS-C model.

Just like the other November 2016 categories, some prices have actually/surprisingly gone up, some went down, many stayed the same. We see the same price pattern here, where the race to the price-bottom is essentially over.

The picture below gives you a bird’s eye view. Click twice on it or view the full size PNG for a more readable version (only 50K).

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The APS-C RAWsumers

Things were fairly quiet in the world of APS-C, with Fuji giving their X100* a lower priced parallel APS-C model with the X70. The only other new camera was a waterproof variation on a Leica theme (X-U Typ 113). Remaining are two famous models among aficionados of this segment, the X100T and Ricoh GR II.

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The 1-inch Sensors Dominate the RAWsumers

One clear pattern that emerged this year is that the 1-inch sensor cameras are dominating the RAWsumer segment. Nine of the eleven new cameras in this segment have 1-inch sensors, including Nikon’s new line of DLs. Sony, Panasonic and Canon all released new models at this size. Their prices are well spaced, with a dense $600 to $1000 section in the middle.

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Footnotes

  • Prices as of November 3 in 2016 – see second paragraph above for details
  • Prices are more or less uniform among the three tracked retailers
  • New additions since the previous chart include the Nikon DL trio, the Sony RX10 III and RX100 V, the Panasonic LX10 and ZS100 and FZ2500, the Fuji X70, and Canon G7 X II and the Leica X-U T113 and such
  • Gone since the previous chart are the Ricoh GR, PAnasonic CM1, LX7 and FZ200, Nikon P7800, Fuji XF1, XQ1, XQ2, X-S1, Canon G16 and S120, Olympus Stylus 1S, and such
  • Typos, errors, confusions, omissions are always possible. Please leave a comment or use the online contact form. If I don’t notice an error and no one mentions it, it won’t get fixed on its own 🙂

Camera Price Charts 2016 Episode III: The Mirrorless Expansion

In Episode #1 of the November 2016 series, we took a look at the prices of all 35mm Full Frame Digital Cameras… In Episode #2, we took a look at APS-C DSLRs… In this post (Episode III), we take a look at prices of mirrorless cameras. As usual, we do not include rangefinders in this category, and we do not include sensors larger than 35mm since those are very niche (but we saw action there too with the Fuji medium format GFX 50S).

Where Does The Data Come From?

The prices are the consensus prices between Amazon and B&H Photo and Adorama as of November 2 in 2016. These are new condition with USA warranty prices, from authorized dealers. Prices are the body only kit, except for cameras without an official body-only kit – we use the lowest priced standard kit (eg w/18-55) for those. Older cameras that are no longer available in new condition with USA warranty from the above retailers, or are available in a very limited fashion, are not included.

Flagship Mirrorless Prices as of November 2016

There are many mirrorless cameras out there, so we start by taking a look at the flagship camera of each system. Samsung is out of the market now, while finally Canon decided to get serious with a more advanced mirrorless camera, so we are including it here. Sigma too joined the party with the SD Quattro. Their APS-H camera does not have a price yet, so the non-H is the current flagship ~ we only look at real aka “purchasable” products in these price charts. The Pentax Q-S1 is still lingering around but I can’t find enough loopholes to call it a flagship camera, adorkable as it may be 🙂

Leica price-leads the way and with that price, it will remain a champion until the next Leica camera. Sony’s price-flagship having the 35mm full frame sensor is also guaranteed a second place. Olympus played price-leapfrog with the E-M1 II, whose price was revealed a few days ago [see Stock Status Tracker] jumping ahead of Fuji’s latest entries. The Panasonic GH4 and Nikon V3 remained the same flagships as last year.

In yellow highlight below are the new releases since our previous price-chart…

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Mirrorless Prices as of November 2016

Compare and contrast the size of this monster chart below with the one of APS-C DSLRs and you can tell where a lot of the action is happening. We had roughly twice as many new mirrorless cameras in 2016 than APS-C DSLRs. If it wasn’t for the “Export As Image” option, the chart below would have to be two parts 🙂

Click on the image twice to see it at maximum size (unless you are on a giant vertical monitor) or open the full size PNG file (fear not, it’s only 55K, it won’t eat up your mobile data).

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The Pentax Q-S1 with its atom ant sized sensor is leading the price-bottom in both charts, but sensor-size is not always a factor in pricing. There is a wild mix of 1″ and M43 and APS-C and 35mm Full Frame. For example, the $1100 35mmFF Sony a7 is in the middle, and costs less than the Nikon V3 with its “Angry Inch” sensor 🙂

Just like with DSLRs, the race to the price-bottom is over. Most of the sub-$400 cameras are older. As usual with these charts, we feature the body only price, unless a particular camera does not have an official body-only kit. In those cases, we feature the lowest priced kit (most of the time it’s the w/14-42 or w/18-55 and such). This is why you see some cameras in the chart with lenses next to their names.

To save the chart from being totally unreadable, I removed the Leica SL Typ 601, which you can see in all its price glory in the Flagships chart at the top. Its price flattened almost all the other entries in the cart.

Taking a bird’s eye view, shows a steady progression of prices from $200 to $2200, so anyone buying specific price points, won’t have trouble finding something 🙂 This kinda feels healthy and organic – I think.

While doing this it became painfully obvious that Panasonic’s naming scheme is/was in sharp need of a reboot. They have very similarly-named cameras, and the combination of letters and numbers they use is just too similar and overlapping and confusing and non-distinct 🙂 Imagine how the average consumer must feel looking at the soup of Gs and Xs and Fs and 7s and 8s 🙂

The “Take Pictures With” Kits

Body only options are great if you already have lenses or if you are a serious/advanced photographer and you are planning to buy non-entry-level lenses. But for a beginner or someone dipping their toes into a new system (without taking a big financial risk), the “Take Pictures with Kits” (TPwK) are important, since you are ready to take pictures. Some of the cameras that are listed as Body Only in the mega chart above appear here with their kit lenses. This only covers lower prices, where TPwKs are more relevant. Under $650 is the cut-off point, which is why there’s only one new camera (yellow highlighter).

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Again, as you can see above, the race to the price-bottom days are over, so for someone looking for lower prices, the used/refurbished market may be an option to look at.

PREVIOUS YEARS

Footnotes

  • Prices as of November 1 in 2016 – see second paragraph above for details
  • Prices are more or less uniform among the three tracked retailers
  • New additions since the previous chart include the Fuji X-T2, X-PRO2, X-E2S, X-A3, Olympus E-M1 II, E-PL8, and Pen-F, Canon M5, Sigma SD Quattro, Sony a6300, Panasonic G85 and GX85, and such
  • Gone from last year’s chart are the Samsung line-up, Fuji X-E2 and X-E1, Nikon S2, Olympus E-M5, E-M10, E-PL6, Panasonic GF6, GF7, GH3, GM5, GX7, and such
  • Typos, errors, confusions, omissions are always possible. Please leave a comment or use the online contact form. If I don’t notice an error and no one mentions it, it won’t get fixed on its own 🙂

Camera Price Charts 2016 Episode I: The Full Frame Price Fix

And we are back with the 2016 edition of our snapshot of camera prices in the US market. We start with the 35mm full frame digital cameras, grouping together all kinds, DSLRs, mirrorless, walletfinders (okay, rangefinders), and fixed lens. Because Medium Format is a very small niche, we are not tracking their prices here… In Episode #2 we look at APS-C DSLR prices

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Camera Price Charts Episode IV – Fixed Lens Cameras with RAW

We conclude this round of Price Charts by taking a look at Fixed Lens digital cameras that support RAW out of the box, with sensor sizes ranging from 1/2.x” to 35mm full frame. In the previous installments, we covered a snapshot of the prices of 35mm Full Frame Digital Cameras, and then APS-C dSLRs and Mirrorless cameras.

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Camera Price Charts Episode III – It’s a Mirrorless World

We continue this mid-November 2015 Price Charts series with Mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras. Rangefinders are not included in this since they are their own category and their prices are in the stratosphere and they are already included in Episode #1, 35mm Full Frame Digital Cameras. Then in Episode II, we took a look at the prices of APS-C dSLRs.

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Camera Price Charts Episode II: APS-C dSLRs – We Still Exist

In Episode #1, we looked at the prices of 35mm Full Frame Digital Cameras. In this episode, we focus on the APS-C dSLRs. As you can see by comparing to the December 2014 edition, the number of APS-C dSLRs has slightly decreased, partially because of full frame expansion and partially because of mirrorless expansion.

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Camera Price Charts Episode I: Fascinating – the Full Frame Price Gap of 2014 is Filled with most of the 2015 new releases

One of the most procrastinated posts perhaps in the history of this blog is finally here! The November 2015 edition of the Camera Price Charts. In this series, we take a snapshot of camera prices, and navel-gaze at the data and patterns that emerge. We start with the 35mm full frame digital cameras (DSLRs, mirrorless, rangefinders, fixed lens)…

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